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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.07 15:23:40 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:being a highsec merc grow a pair and discover the wonders of leaving HiSec behind. Post on your main or gtfo Ty C&P
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.07 15:30:22 -
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I'm kinda pissed to know that if I go back to a small merc corp (where there are only 3-4 active hunters), I'll have to spend more time looking for the guy (if he's online or not).
Sure the target doesn't know if you're online either, but most carebears don't know about the watchlist in the first place.
Sure it helps for the LS/NS titan pilots, but it leaves smaller mercs in the dust
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:06:16 -
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Smitty Uitra wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Smitty Uitra wrote:Fybs wrote:tiberiusric wrote:we survived quite well before having this.
ps dont we have like 100 threads on this open already is there a thread here in C&P about this already? There was one but it was started before they formally announced it in a dev blog they still haven't announced it in a dev blog, this one went by word of mouth from player gatherings until it showed up in the patch notes. Sorry, it's was announced in the Patchnotes: http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-march-2016-release
It wasn't in a dev blog though
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:17:14 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Never needed a watch list. But I expect a raging torrent of "merc" tears.
Carry on. Oh look You're being as irrelevant as Anya and Nitshe Gg
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.08 16:54:16 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is.
Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local.
Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline.
It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location.
The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew.
You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs  You have to think bigger.. Lets say as a merc you get a contract against an alliance with 100-200 members spread around in empire. From experience I would say maybe 10% of those members are active during a wardec. To find those guys online using the proposed method from Lady Ayeipsia would be a HUGE task. And ineffective.. A lvl4 locates gives you location of the target when you ran the locate agent You get the answer back 10 min later, so if he was moving he is long gone by the time you get there. Then theres the agent cooldown before you can run another locate. (another 20min on top) Ofc you have multiple agents.. But you also have to move from agent to agent, this takes time. Oh.. and dont forget the cost.. 250k every locate you run. Basicly you will have more chance of finding an online target sitting in a hub or pipe waiting for him to pass you. Its not about beeing lazy (well for some it is) but more using the time more efficient. Both for us and our employers. I totally agree. When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things: 1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill), 2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more..
Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.08 17:50:28 -
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Ozzie Udan wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:[quote=Ozzie Udan][quote=Lady Ayeipsia]
I totally agree. When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things: 1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill), 2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more.. Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd How wrong you are but oh i do forget your very new , or is your corp History wrong , can't see it very well using my phone Lol very new Lol please Although you probably spent more time in an npc corp than I spent time in any player corp lmao
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.08 19:35:32 -
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Droidster wrote:1. Go to location agent
2. Order agent to find guy
3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah
4. Go to system
5. He is not there because he is logged off
Or he was moving 
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.08 19:36:32 -
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Johnny Punisher wrote:HoleySheet1 wrote:
Emperor of Amarr King of Jita Scourge of the spaceplanes -Holeysheet1
Haha are you some highsec baddie? :D Nah just some publord with a big ego
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Posted - 2016.03.09 21:27:21 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:ISD Chanisa Nemes wrote:I guess I'm kind of confused why people who are being dec'ed would care abut the watchlist changes? Most of the war deccing mercs are so large that there will always be at least one of them online and there are some pretty obvious systems that should just be avoided during a war. I feel like if someone is hunting you it's best to just assume they're coming after you at all times and be ready. Sure it would make it harder to go AFTER an individual when you don't know if they're online or not but maybe it's an opportunity for you guys to charge more to find them ;) There aren't that many major merc groups. There are a lot more small corporations like mine where a handful of people wardec corporations for fun or profit. Those guys can definitely be tracked via watch list and are also a lot more likely to actively hunt rather than camping gates and stations. As is typical, the small operators of Eve get screwed because "this doesn't affect the big guys". Pretty much this
Big alliances don't really care since they always have 100+ wars. But for the smaller corp which hunts 2-3 corps, it just made their game nigh impossible. They're going to spend way more time looking for an offline dude than they would otherwise.
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.10 13:28:20 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Lahnius wrote:I actually do like losing the ability to ABUSE the watchlist. Before using the watchlist to keep an eye on who was, or was not, online I used to actually go out and hunt targets ... and now it feels good to be forced back into actually playing the game rather than sitting somewhere waiting for that "DING" sound. Sitting around waiting makes one lazy, and I became a lazy player. Now I feel like I am back in the game. ... as much as I was like, I am now like ... Thanks CCP ... I think this was a great move in the right direction!!!! I agree totally. F$$k the watch list, it was for noobs. Easy to say coming from the #1 hub camper 
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.10 15:33:30 -
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Fybs wrote:Plook wrote:Guys, when you consider the fact that your little corporations and wars don't sink nearly as much into this game as super owners and their ilk, are you really that surprised that this was implemented?
You don't have anyone's ear and the vast majority of you are practically peasants compared to most super owners. None of you are ambassadors for the game. You have no CSM representatives.
The newbro with zero kills anywhere in PL's canon fodder alliance has spoken..... Personally I don't mind the changes. P.S By the way plook if you think none of us own caps or even supers then your are mistaken. I own Super Mario Bros for NES. Does that count?
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.03.10 18:35:30 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink (it's all tears) Adapt or be deleted. Happy hunting  Irrelevance level: on par with Nitshe
Are you a Nitshe alt? 
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